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Charles Jelen: All right, listener. Welcome. Welcome to Cool Air Hot Takes. This is a podcast where every couple of weeks, me and my buddy Dan here, we get together, bring you a couple hot takes. We talk about anything and everything from the world of HVAC, energy in the Built Environment.
Dan Gentry: We are your hosts. I'm Dan Gentry.
And I'm Charlie Gellan. First, we got a little PSA for everybody. This is the last episode of season three, but certainly not the least. Thank you so much once again for coming along. This has been a wild podcast ride and stay tuned for much more.
Charles Jelen: Alright, we have covered a lot in this season, so I'm gonna walk you through a couple of the things just to jog your memory, go back in your reels and, and go listen to these ones.
But we, we covered liquid cooling and data centers with none other than Nvidia Ali Hadi. We covered the idea of bring your own power and how to fuel data centers with Geronimo power. We covered how companies like Autodesk are building products that allow designers and engineers to visualize the built environment digitally in more and more ways.
And then finally, we spoke to the one and only HVAC legend, Mr. Mick Sweedler, and what a lifetime in the industry looks like.
Dan Gentry: And folks, even though this is the last episode of this series. The good times do not stop here Today we are joined by Ola smu. She's a national sales manager for heat pumps at Everence, an organization that focuses on helping industries decarbonize.
And here's a fun fact for you, about 60% of the world's trade. It's powered by engines from everence. So think about your shipping containers and all the way down to power plants. So pretty cool stuff. I'm pretty excited about really,
Charles Jelen: uh, fringing on our stat of the day territory there. Holy,
Dan Gentry: holy cats. This is, this is fun.
This one. Very fun. That was a good one. I like that. Uh, we also have, of course, the latest HVAC headlines and your stat of the day.
Charles Jelen: The actual stat of the day, not the intro stat of the day. I love it.
Dan Gentry: First, should we do some hot takes
Charles Jelen: before we get to hot takes? I gotta know what's going on at the, uh, Gentry Establishment household tonight.
Dan Gentry: Tonight,
Charles Jelen: yeah. Um, what do we have tonight? Let me ask the question behind the question. Okay. I got told this morning that I'm taking Millie to dance, but I need to pick up Piper on the way. I was like, oh, all right. Oh
Dan Gentry: yeah. Hopefully my wife isn't listening, but she probably is. I'll have to look at my calendar.
There's some dance thing I, I heard
Charles Jelen: about, well, I'm taking it.
Dan Gentry: So I'm on the hook. What are you doing tonight? What? Uh, I have a haircut at five maybe that's what time.
Charles Jelen: Okay. Okay. I'm glad I can help the Gentry family with your haircut.
Dan Gentry: Well, you know, it's me and Mav, so I mean it's, yeah. Okay. You know, you're helping with half of the family,
Charles Jelen: you know?
Got it. And so we
Dan Gentry: appreciate the effort, so.
Charles Jelen: Alright. Uh, hot take time. I got a hot take. This came from a little project we did over the weekend, so we're building a little cabin out on a piece of land we call the homestead. Mm-hmm. And it's 24 by 24. Yeah. So it is not a huge building, so we're gonna put a mini split in it to heat and cool It.
It's what they're made for can absolutely handle that. We upsized a little bit to make sure it could handle all the heat. It's really like tall ceilings. Mm-hmm. Incredibly easy. My hot take is. If you wanna add heating or cooling to a room, to a small building, do not be afraid to do a mini split heat pump on your own.
Uh, the one that I got had pre-charged line sets along with pre-charged condensing unit. Is that just like wound up like a, it's like a flexible Yeah. Pipe. Yeah. Well, they're copper lines that are insulated, and then there's just refrigerant in the lines.
Dan Gentry: Oh, okay.
Charles Jelen: And they're just wound up and like, you know.
Two foot diameter reel, you just unroll it and then you, you hook 'em up. I couldn't even believe it. 'cause usually if you don't do the pre-charged lines, you have to evacuate the system. So you have to get a vac pump and pull the system down. Make sure that it holds so that you don't have any moisture in there.
With this one, it's just hook. The line sets up, you mount the units inside, outside, you got heating, you got cooling. It's sweet. I love it. That's great. What do you got for today?
Dan Gentry: My hot take. It revolves a lot of equipment stuff as always.
Charles Jelen: Is this a hydronic chiller hot take? 'cause I think we gotta cut you off at some point.
Dan Gentry: This will be a quick one, but the take is, no, I was just kidding. Oil free doesn't mean maintenance free. Yeah, the maintenance. To the oil system is gone because you've removed that, but it's still a mechanical piece of equipment with moving parts. Yep. And really the oil system is just replaced with a magnetic bearing controller, which is a computer and mm-hmm.
Sensors and those things need to be calibrated, maintained, all that kind of stuff. Powered. So
Charles Jelen: powered. This is like directly related to Joe Hagger. Season one, episode two. Yes. His hot take was don't fall in love with the bearing technology, and this is right in line with that conversation. New technology that's coming in right now is gas bearing.
Mm-hmm. They're all going to have pros and cons. They will all 100% need some sort of maintenance.
Dan Gentry: Yes. Remember, it's a piece of equipment needs to be maintained.
Charles Jelen: I like it. That's my thing. Good one. Alright, listener up next HVAC. Headlines,
Billy Rice: HVAC. Headlines your news today.
Charles Jelen: All right, listener, it's 5 35 in Tijuana. Here's your headlines. Headline number one. Should I cover my AC unit in winter? I'm excited about this one. Well, Danno, you found this one. This is good. This is, I got to contribute. This is from Tom's guide. What's your thought on it?
Dan Gentry: Well, I thought it was kind of neat because it's something I've always thought about
Charles Jelen: what we're talking about here. The condensing unit is the thing that sits outside. It's usually like a block. It's got a fan in it. There's compressor in there too. Usually don't see that. The question is, during the winter, should you cover that up and protect it from the elements?
Dan Gentry: And you see a lot of people that do. You do. And I've always thought about it, but I've never done it. And then I stumbled upon this article and the short answer is no, no, don't do it. Because you can get moisture buildup, rust. You can make a nice, warm environment for animals to mm-hmm. Come into. So it doesn't actually help do anything.
'cause getting snow, it's an outdoor unit, it's made for the elements. It's made to be outside anyway. It would only apply to air conditioning. 'cause if it's a heat pump, it's heating and cooling, so you can't cover it. So it's in the elements anyway. If you've
Charles Jelen: got a heat pump and you're covering it up, that's a bad idea.
You're gonna get some real problems going there.
Dan Gentry: So yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. Uh, that's a good one. Interesting. So don't cover your unit, just maintain it.
Charles Jelen: It's what we're here for. Just giving the people a lot of tips left and right.
Dan Gentry: Oh man. Now you know.
Charles Jelen: All right. Headline number two. How can artificial intelligence increase HVAC profits?
Five strategies, transforming the industry with 40% productivity gains? So I've read this one and this one caught my eye because in general, I think there's a massive question in the world right now, especially in North America. Is, how are data center and AI companies going to get a return mm-hmm. On the trillions of dollars that are going into the AI and data center space?
Dan Gentry: That's the question right now.
Charles Jelen: Right? So I'm gonna read through it. First one here. Predictive maintenance reduces unexpected equipment failures by 50%, cutting expensive replacements in emergency repair costs. That seems very obvious. What I think is interesting, yeah, is let's say you've got a rooftop unit and it's set to hold 55 degrees when you're in space cooling.
If that machine can't get there, let's say it's 58, 59, 60 degrees, a temperature that you're probably not gonna notice, you're not gonna get hot cold calls, you know? Mm-hmm. From the occupants of the building, but there's clearly something going on in the unit itself. I think every unit probably throws off warnings all the time, but those warnings don't go anywhere.
They often get overridden. Mm-hmm. In an AI workspace, you can take that information and actually do something with it.
Dan Gentry: And the number too. It says 50%. That's a big number.
Charles Jelen: Yeah. Well, and I think a lot of that productivity comes from not having to pay the emergency costs. Yes. I like that one. Uh, the next one was energy optimization.
I think that one's really straightforward. AI making your systems operate more efficiently. Save money. Yep. Straightforward automation and administration efficiency. Reclaiming time and reducing costs. So they're saying AI powered automation saves. 10 to 15 hours per technician by eliminating time consuming administrative tasks.
Dan Gentry: That's weekly, so that's like one to two days of
Charles Jelen: productivity. That one's really high. So they're saying faster quote, turnaround times, improve sales conversion rates along with reduced paperwork errors and enhanced productivity. If that one's true, that one's huge. I haven't seen that one in practice.
Dan Gentry: I think some of this stuff high level, when you think about AI and what we think it should do, mm-hmm.
It's like, yeah, I think that's what it would do. But I think the proof is gonna be in the pudding or whenever they figure it,
Charles Jelen: they gotta figure some stuff out. So that one would be huge if it's real. Mm-hmm. Uh, enhanced diagnostics and service quality premium pricing for superior service. Realtime monitoring systems, alert technicians to emerging issues, improving first response resolution rates, and customer satisfaction.
So this is just being more productive with when you go, knowing what's wrong. Knowing what's wrong before you get there.
Dan Gentry: Yep. So you're not just walking in blind Right. Parts, blah, blah, blah. That makes
Charles Jelen: sense.
Dan Gentry: Yeah.
Charles Jelen: Workforce optimizations, AI analyzes project pipelines and seasonal demand patterns to optimize workforce planning, reducing overtime costs, and improving productivity.
Again, I think that is a platform level enhancement. I'm not sure if it's there. I think like Olo, another trained platform that does asset management, I think that would be where you would see improvements there.
Billy Rice: Mm-hmm.
Charles Jelen: Alright. Customer intelligence and targeted service marketing. I think it's pretty straightforward, but like analyzing customer behavior and marketing towards that behavior where you're having success.
Mm
Dan Gentry: sure.
Charles Jelen: Right? Yeah. So what they say for ROI timeline what you should expect. Year one, quick wins in diagnostic efficiency and scheduling optimization. Year two, predictive maintenance payback typically achieved operational efficiency gains. Realized year three plus sustained profitability, improvements from premium service positioning and customer retention.
As long as
Dan Gentry: all
Charles Jelen: this stuff does what
Dan Gentry: I know well, it's supposed to do. Yeah, that's the plan
Charles Jelen: right's. It's such like the perfect, like 1, 2, 3, like, okay, I got benefit year one, year two, year three. It sustains forever. Where do I sign up? Yep. Alright, up next. Ola Desumo, national Sales Manager for heat pumps at Everence.
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All right, listener. We have the National Sales Manager for heat pumps at Everence Ola smu. Welcome to Cool Air Hot Takes. How you doing today? Thank you. I'm so excited to be part of this show. Absolutely. Thank you. Thanks for jumping on. All right. Well, we don't know each other, you know, we've worked together a little bit on, on some early project work, but I don't know much about your background.
So where are you from? What's your background?
Mobola Dosumu: Okay. My name, as you guys mentioned already, my name is Moola dmu, sales manager of the heat pumps business with Everlys. I've been in the energy industry for over 20 years.
Charles Jelen: What about personal? What's your favorite hobby?
Mobola Dosumu: In my downtime, you'll find me in the kitchen.
I love cooking and I love baking.
Charles Jelen: What's your cooking genre?
Mobola Dosumu: So I am from Nigeria and I do a lot of, um, our local dishes 'cause my family loves that. And, um, Asian food. I love Asian food. Well, you have a couple of fans over
Dan Gentry: here.
Charles Jelen: Yeah. When Dan and I travel together, we, we try to find like the, the best Asian food we can in every city we're at.
So pretty good. You're a friendly company here.
Mobola Dosumu: Oh, that's fantastic. So we'll have to do a after podcast meet up and go try some good food. Yes, we're down.
Charles Jelen: Alright, let's get into the, uh, the professional side here. So for, for our listener, can you give us a little bit of who Isly and what do you guys do?
Mobola Dosumu: Soly, it's a new name. Um, we were formerly known as MAN Energy Solution and just June this year we rebranded. We as an organization, we have a slogan where we say. Moving big things to zero. We want to help our customers achieve that carbon neutrality goal that they have. Mm-hmm. And heat pumps, which is what I'm here to talk more about, to help decarbonize and electrify heat generation industry.
I think a lot of statistics, I've shown that heat generation contributes about 40%. Most CO2 emissions, and half of that is related to industrial processes. So if we're able to bring our technology to that space, it'll definitely move the liver in reducing the amount of CO2 emissions and help us with our mission.
Yeah, to help our customers de decarbonize their operations.
Charles Jelen: So we had Ruth checkoff on from RTC and her hot take, which I'm gonna get to in a second here for you was if we're gonna meet any of our long-term decarbonization goals, we need to get after the industrial side of it. And you guys are a prime supplier into that ecosystem
Mobola Dosumu: for sure.
Yes. And my hot take is in response to what she said. Okay. Oh perfect. Perfect. That was a great lead in.
Charles Jelen: Alright, so the name of the show is Cool Air Hot Takes. So we ask all of our guests that come on to bring a hot take with them. What did you bring for us today? So
Mobola Dosumu: my hot take is high temperature. Heat pumps aren't what's next?
They're now.
Charles Jelen: Okay. All right.
Mobola Dosumu: Because I know she mentioned that what she would like is high temperature heat pumps to be available. Mm-hmm. To achieve that decarbonization. But I'm telling her you don't have to look any further. We got them.
Charles Jelen: All right. I like it. Right? I like
Mobola Dosumu: challenge. They're in the game.
They're, they're already changing the game.
Charles Jelen: We're gonna dive into heat pumps here. Now, since this is your area of the business, and I think for our listeners out there, of all of the work that Everlance does, this is probably the area that is the most adjacent to us. So let's start with the basics. What is a heat?
Mobola Dosumu: So a heat pump is a mechanism to electrify heat generation. Traditional systems use a fossil based methodology in generating heat, so you're burning natural gas to provide either hot water or steam. With a heat pump, what you're using is a heat pump cycle. Mm-hmm. To generate that heat. Heat sources we're talking about.
Can use river water. Sea water, geothermal sources, a lot of data center waste. Heat is a hot topic right now of conversation. You can also use air as a potential free heat source.
Charles Jelen: Perfect. Okay, so heat pumps have been around for a long time, for decades. Uh, we've been using them in the heating space and they've been.
Limited in terms of our overall application of where we see heat pumps. Give us an idea of what is everence doing differently from a rooftop heat pump or a chiller heat pump, or a chiller heater? What are you guys doing differently in the market?
Mobola Dosumu: We're not talking about residential heat pumps, we're talking about industrial skill.
Heat pumps. The minimum capacity for heat pumps, gigawatt, thermal, and in terms of steam equivalent is about 34,000 pounds per hour. Of steam. So those are the sizes that we're looking at, at a minimum, and then we can go up from there. Additionally, we are able to provide those high temperature requirements at the heat sink.
For hot water, we can get hot water up to 150 degrees Celsius and steam up to 350 degrees Celsius. So those are how we differentiate from what is available in terms of capacity. Scale and the temperature levels that you're looking at. Another key thing that differentiates us is our flexibility in terms of refrigerants.
There are certain solutions that only use one versus the other because our solutions are custom engineered. There's no one size fits all, which can also be a challenge, right? What we're able to offer is that flexibility to use either natural refrigerants such as. Pneumonia hydrocarbon. CO2 is on the table, um, for trans-critical cycle.
And then, or use a synthetic refrigerant. So those gives an overview of how we differentiate from what's available in the market on an industrial scale.
Dan Gentry: So I was gonna say those temperatures are significantly higher than say what we would hear out of readily commercially available heat pumps in, say, the North American market today.
What makes your solution different than say some of those commercially available solutions that are limited to significantly lower hot water supply temperatures?
Mobola Dosumu: What makes our solution different is we're taking advantage of the flexibility of refrigerants to get those high temperatures, and then we're using our compressor technology.
It's our bread and butter. That's the core of the business for our industrial team. These are compressors that are used in petrochemical air processing, oil and gas operations that need that high level. Of temperatures for the operations. So what we're doing is not new. We're just taking advantage of technology we already have in our portfolio and refocusing it towards decarbonization.
Dan Gentry: Are we talking like centrifugal compressors, reset compressors? What kind of, yes. We're talking
Mobola Dosumu: about centrifugal compressors. Yes. For the heat pump solution for our vapor compression cycle, we have our inline centrifugal compressor as as one of the options we have in the portfolio that we can use to design a heat pump solution.
We also have an integrally geared compressor as well that's available to use. And for our transferal cycle that uses CO2 as a refrigerant, we use thematically filled compressor. With magnetic bearing. So this was developed for offshore subsea oil and gas operations, and we repurposing this to use within new mutations and new industries specific to heat decarbonization.
Charles Jelen: How do you guys go to market? Uh, 10 megawatts is the smallest that you go. I'm assuming your bread and butter is more like 20 or 30 megawatts from what I've seen in the past. Do you guys have a product or is it more of a, you're a custom builder for an application?
Mobola Dosumu: We're a custom builder for an application.
That's one of our, the uniqueness of our solution to the market. Every application is different. Every boundary condition is different. So we design to each individual customer's application and their boundary condition. In terms of refrigerant it, talk about the flexibility, we're able to. Look at the different aspects and bring in different limitation.
If you have a regulatory limitation of using one refrigerator versus the other, we can be flexible in that matter, to design what the right fit for the particular customer is.
Charles Jelen: Where are you seeing success? I'm assuming Europe is further ahead than the us. I know of one or two installations here in the us but kind of talk us through like what's the recipe for success for ever Evelyn heat pumps?
Mobola Dosumu: So, recipe for success for us is, you know, it's a mix of. Finding the balance between the right business case, the regulatory and policy environment. And as you mentioned, Europe is ahead based on the incentives and the drivers and the levers with the, the regulatory policies that they have there. Our very first heat pump project is in Berg, Denmark.
There we have the largest transcortical, CO2. Sea water heat pump that we're using for district energy application, displacing a coal heat generation district energy application. And what's interesting about this is it's combined with thermal storage. So there's a hot water tank where the customers able to leverage opportunities of negative power pricing.
The system is being powered by renewable. Energy and Denmark is at the forefront of decarbonizing. Um, that project we achieved first heat, you know, upstream oil and gas. You say first oil. Mm-hmm. In heat decarbonization we call it First heat. First heat. December, December of last year. And the, the plan has been running, you know, nonstop since then.
So we're using sea water. Ranging between, you know, zero to 10 degrees Celsius, extracting heat from really cold temperatures and using that to deliver hot water, about 60 to 90 degrees to the heat sink for that particular project. And it's been an inspirational project that we've seen a ripple effect on that.
In Finland, we have an air sourced solution that we're gonna be deploying there as well. Coming back home to the United States, the really big one that we're looking forward to is with Vicinity Energy. They're the largest North American district energy provider, and they have a three stage plan to decarbonize.
Their STEAM network to provide steam to downtown Boston and Cambridge area. The first part of that plan, they installed a 42 megawatt electric boiler, and phase two is installation of a 35 megawatts heat pump from eent, and this heat pump will be base load. For the entire operations and we've signed the contract for that project and it's moving full steam ahead, no pun, into
Charles Jelen: little engineering humor for you.
Full heat pump
Mobola Dosumu: ahead, full heat pump ahead. They're looking to couple that with thermal energy storage as well. What's interesting about the project is Charles River is really close by. They're leveraging that as the heat source. We're sending back the water cooler. And using the heat from the Charles River to power the heat pump cycle and deliver green steam to the customer.
And there is a market, um, customer is very excited about, you know, getting this as soon as possible to deliver green steam to their end customers.
Charles Jelen: Absolutely. All right, last question. Magic wand time. If you had a magic wand. Yes. Gotta love the magic wand. If you had a magic wand and you could change one thing in the industry to increase the adoption of Evelyn's heat pumps, what would it be?
Mobola Dosumu: If we didn't have to have conversations of business cases and penciling out and. It was just a matter of let's do what's the best for the planet. Right? Just do it. That would be my magic wand.
Charles Jelen: You went with the Nike slogan. Just do it. Just heat, pump it. Heat pumps everywhere. Heat
Mobola Dosumu: pumps everywhere.
Charles Jelen: I like it.
Um, what about from a. A hurdle standpoint. Is there a a key hurdle that you see as limiting adoption of your technology? Is there a policy? Is there an energy pricing? Is there a federal regulation? Is there a thing or is it a, that's not one thing.
Mobola Dosumu: It's a mix of different things. There is a cost to decarbonization.
That's one thing. You have to make the business case work. Secondly is for us. There's some projects, we're talking to customers and they're like, where are we gonna get the electricity capacity from, right? Mm-hmm. There's a strain on the different grids, and that's also a challenge because the demand keeps increasing with ai boom and all of that.
I would say another thing I mentioned that we're custom engineered. Custom built, so there's not one size fits all. Right? So that's a positive, but also is a challenge because we can't just do one engineering for everything and just say, okay, come get your heat pump, it's ready to go. You have it within four months, right?
Everything is different because the nature of the different system have its individual peculiarities. So it's a balance of. Different areas. It's not just one thing.
Dan Gentry: The magic wand depends on the project. Yeah.
Charles Jelen: All right. Maa, thank you for coming on. Next time we're together, spicy Asian foods on us. Ah, appreciate you coming out.
Thank you. It was nice
Mobola Dosumu: meeting you all.
Charles Jelen: Absolutely. Nice to meet you. Yes, thank you.
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Charles Jelen: All right, listener. We've got another Dan in the factory. Danno. Where'd you go this week?
Dan Gentry: Yeah, so this week we had some customers in testing a fan coil wall in our lab. So we got this big setup done. It's like a big wind tunnel almost, if you will.
Charles Jelen: Yeah, it's a big donut.
Dan Gentry: Yes. Yeah, the donut. And uh, we have a commissioning agent that commissions data centers, and he's got some pretty cool experience and a fun little story, so enjoy.
Today I have Billy Rice with me,
who's a mechanical commissioning agent,
and we are in the laboratory. Here in LA Cross, Wisconsin, we're actually testing some fan walls for some data centers and thought I'd pull Billy aside and ask some questions and see what he does every day. Billy, you wanna say hello?
Billy Rice: Yeah. Hi, Dan. Billy Rice here. We're here at the factory today for a client of ours and performing a factory witness test on some fan walls. Upcoming for tomorrow, we're gonna do some chiller testing too, so I'm excited about that.
Dan Gentry: Nice fan walls and chillers. That sounds exciting. Yeah, it's gonna be a good, uh, good little trip.
Billy Rice: Yeah, it's a good thing to come to the factory and see a bunch of equipment that we don't normally get to see in this environment.
Dan Gentry: So can you, uh, give us a little background? So what do you do? What's a day in the life?
Billy Rice: Yeah, so, uh, again, I'm a mechanical commissioning agent, so effectively everything that cools and or pressurizes, airside for a data center all the way from the server hall, computer cooling.
To the, uh, support areas for comfort cooling. We oversee the quality of installation as well as the review and critique of factory startup and assist and such. And then once the respective trades have had the equipment energized and started it up and filled out all the checklists pertaining to then our team has handed the equipment and we perform the functional testing and see that it.
Does everything it's supposed to do,
Dan Gentry: it sounds like a lot. Yes,
Billy Rice: yes. It's a lot. It's a lot. Our world is very interesting to me. Yes. You may be working on, you know, an air handler as we have with us today, or a chiller as we mentioned, but it's all the equipment that goes with the piping, the cooling towers, the pump.
The air handlers, the terminal units, the pressure sensors, all the data acquisition that goes within our automation systems are getting much more complicated. Everyone wants instrumentation and histories for all of the operations moment to moment,
Dan Gentry: do you have a favorite piece of equipment or a system type to commission?
Billy Rice: Yeah, I'm a sucker for a big chilled water plant. Aren't we all? I'm a sucker for, uh, I come to this world from the controls industry. And some of my very, very first challenges as a controls person was working in a chilled water plant. And it was those, those tough days and long nights that I learned and I just, I have great appreciation for pumps and cooling and I just really enjoy the, all the stuff that makes the noises and makes it go.
I just, I really like it.
Dan Gentry: I'm a big guy. Chilled water chiller guy myself, so I, I can appreciate that. Yeah.
Billy Rice: Yeah.
Dan Gentry: What about as far as like struggles or challenges? What are some of the biggest challenges that you face?
Billy Rice: Bringing capacity online right now is the name of the game, and we all are various manufacturers bringing equipment to site, shipping constraints, schedule constraints.
We are just trying to turn over capacity, especially in the data center world as fast as we can and trying to expedite the processes everywhere as possible. True. Everyone has different milestones that they're trying to get going earlier than later. It used to be that we would build a facility and walk away, and then that's when the Rub Goldberg machine of installing computers would take off, and now that's not the case.
Now, as soon as we get the facility dried in and safe. To be within and no longer a construction environment where people working over their head. Then teams are installing fiber optics and, and literally installing things that go for the servers and the ball is already rolling. And so at time of turnover for the customer.
It's a living and breathing entity at our integrated systems tests. Speed,
Dan Gentry: speed, speed. Absolutely. Name the game. Absolutely. So we were talking for quite a while before this, so I know you have a lot of good stories. You want to pick a good story, maybe it's a funniest story, a horror story, a problem, whatever it is.
I know. I'll let you pick through your brain and tell us something interesting.
Billy Rice: Yeah. So. We were on a client's site doing airside commissioning and air tends to be a, an interesting thing because you can't see it. And the systems went through some power outages and we were trying to recover and the supply fans recovered before the exhaust fans did, and we greatly over pressurized a room and literally slid a wall on the floor.
So that was, that was not a great occurrence. Uh, everyone reached and hit the epos. Punched the doors open and got the pressure down and that, you know, there were no humans harmed in the process. But, uh. That one was an eyeopener of just how strong air pressure can be.
Dan Gentry: That's the first time I've heard of something like that.
That's pretty wild. Yeah, that that, that's a very good one.
Billy Rice: Yeah.
Dan Gentry: Well, I want to thank you for your time, Billy. Yeah. It was nice talking to you. Yeah. And uh, that's it for us. See you listener.
Charles Jelen: All right, listener. I was actually here for that whole interview and that was about an hour and a half. Cut down into that because Dan and Billy really hit it off. So that was pretty fun.
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Charles Jelen: All right, up next we got stat of the day.
Dan Gentry: Here comes Joe.
Charles Jelen: Stat of the day. Of the Dan. Stand of the
Dan Gentry: day.
Charles Jelen: All right, listener, we got a fun one for Stat of the Day today. Thank you Dan for doing a little homework on this one. I help. You did. This was a really good one. I am not gonna lie. Dan sent me a message this morning and he is like, Hey, what about this for stat of the day? And I didn't know what to expect and I, I got exactly what I expected.
It
was, it was nothing to do with our industry or anything, but it is very funny. So here we go. This is from Reader's Digest, which I think is hilarious that you're, that I'm reading Reader's
Digest. You're out there on Reader's Digest. Funny statistics about Americans that are hard to believe. Here we go.
Number one, 56% of Americans say using a coupon on the first date is not a deal breaker.
Dan Gentry: Sure. I love coupons. Yeah, I just had some free french fries from McDonald's on my way here.
Charles Jelen: Do it. You gotta dial back the McDonald's intake. Okay. But on top of this 28% of that audience actually find frugality sexy and find budget conscious partners more attractive.
Dan Gentry: Oh,
Charles Jelen: I hope Megan's listening.
Dan Gentry: I was gonna say, I think this is like coming back a couple weeks, if you will. I think this kind of, this is a thing.
Charles Jelen: All right, next one. So you sexy one 66% of Americans are poop shy at work.
Dan Gentry: That's a high number that. There's like stalls. You close the door. Some of them are personal and, uh,
Charles Jelen: you know what's, you know, like with 50% of America working from home, this number is really concerning.
I'm kidding.
Dan Gentry: Tell you what, it doesn't seem like there's that much shyness at the, uh, the office, but, oh
Charles Jelen: geez. You know, anybody you wanna call out in particular? Nope.
Dan Gentry: Nope. It's just a war zone in there sometimes.
Charles Jelen: All right. 41% of people think there is a sole group of individuals who secretly, sorry,
Dan Gentry: who secretly control events and rule the world together. I, that's a high number of, I couldn't get past the war. So conspiracy theorists. Guys, I'm losing my co-host over here. This, the stats are just too much today. All right.
Take a deep breath.
Charles Jelen: I didn't finish that one. 41% of people think there is a sole group of individuals who secretly control events and rule the world together. That's that's a high number of conspiracy theorists. Wow, that's, that's heavy. All right, next one. 58% of workers admit to regularly ghost working.
Pretending to work
Dan Gentry: 58%. That's a lot of people pretending to work. I just,
Charles Jelen: alright, last one. 34% of Americans are confident they'll be the only survivor of the apocalypse.
Dan Gentry: Hey man, this American's very confident,
Charles Jelen: or a third of the population thinks they got it all figured out.
Dan Gentry: I wish I could say it surprises me, but I don't think it
Charles Jelen: does.
All right, well, that's some fun stats. That is a good stat way to go. Danni, uh, that is a wrap for season three, episode six.
Thanks for listening to this episode of Cool Air Hot Takes and every episode this season. We'll be back with season four in a few weeks, but we won't all be back. You know? We won't all be back. Much like great football teams who lose their best coordinators to be head coaches for other teams, we're losing our producer.
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